[en][FAQ] Introduction to europa.*


Archive-name:      europa/faq-en-intro-europa (v.1.0.)
Posting-frequency: monthly
Version:           1.0 (01/26/2001)

This FAQ is maintained by the europa.* steering group. Please send your comments and suggestions to: contact@europa.usenet.eu.org

Table of contents
1. What is europa.* ?
1.1. What do you call "Europe" ?
1.2. Which language should I use on europa.* ?
1.3. How do we manage multilingual threads without confusion ?
1.4. What's this strange language used for groups names ?
1.5. But newsgroups descriptions lines are not in Interlingua ?
2. Who steers europa.* ?
3. What are the good practice rules on europa.* ?
3.1. Language
3.2. Cultural differences and xenophobia
3.3. Crossposts and followup-to:
3.4. Top posting
3.5. Problematic messages

1. What is europa.* ?

Europa.* is an international hierarchy for topics covering the continent of Europe. It enables discussion between people from different european countries. More information can be found on the europa.* website: http://www.europa.usenet.eu.org/

For an actual list of europa.* newsgroups, please refer to the current europa-checkgroups, which can be found here: http://www.europa.usenet.eu.org/checkgrps.html

1.1. What do you call "Europe" ?

Europe is defined as a geographical entity that includes Russia (whose most inhabitants live in Europe) and Turkey. It is not restricted to any political and/or economical entity like the European Union.

Of course, messages are welcome from any contributor, european or non-european, provided that their subjects concern european topics.

1.2. Which language should I use on europa.* ?

Europa.* is a multilingual hierarchy, i.e. messages are allowed in any language in use in Europe. There is no 'reference language' on europa.* and multilingual threads are encouraged.

Every document, like this FAQ, is published in as many languages as possible. If you consider that some document is missing a translation in a special language, you can send a message to the steering group at: contact@europa.usenet.eu.org and, much better, propose a translation of your own. :-)

1.3. How do we manage such multilingual threads without confusion ?

First of all, you should inform other people about the languages you understand (even when you are not fluent in writing them). You are therefore advised to state it clearly in your posts. For example, these languages can be put in your signature, using the (iso-639) two-letters international codes, ftp://dkuug.dk/i18n/ISO_639 like in the example below :

   John Doe [ia,en,fr,de,nl,es,it,ru,pl,dk].

Depending on your newsreader specifications, you can also create the header [X-Accept-Language: ] with the same iso-639 language codes. When starting a new subject, you may wish to indicate the preferred language codes in the subject header. However, this will not prevent anyone from replying in other languages, and may well become inaccurate as the thread progresses. On the other hand, it may be useful for people attempting to filter out messages they are unable to read. Conventions may vary from group to group so look at the existing threads before starting a new one.

1.4. What's this strange language used for groups names ?

It is Interlingua. When creating europa.*, it appeared not to be a good idea to mix european languages in the names of newsgroups, nor putting them in one language (English or another one), since that would have compromised the principles of multilinguism and language neutrality.

Instead, newsgroups names are borrowed from Interlingua, a paneuropean language that was designed by a team of linguists to be comprehensible for a maximum amount of people (see http://www.interlingua.com/ ). These are clean, non-arbitrary international forms that almost everybody understands at first sight, no matter which european language they speak.

During the third RFD (Request for Discussion) for the creation of europa.*, Martijn Dekker wrote a "rationale for the use of Interlingua for the names of the europa.* groups" that is to be found on: http://www.europa.usenet.eu.org/interlingua.html

1.5. But newsgroups descriptions lines are not in Interlingua ?

No, they are not indeed. By the way, it appeared that a few newsgroups names in Interlingua were difficult to understand to some people. Therefore, rather than in Interlingua, descriptions lines of newsgroups are multilingual, with a restriction to the languages most representative for each of the linguistic (sub)families, due to lack of space on a 80-characters line.

For more about the newsgroups descriptions line see: http://www.europa.usenet.eu.org/gn-desc.htm#gnds-eng

2. Who steers europa.* ?

Here are the members of europa.* hierarchy's steering group: (see also http://www.europa.usenet.eu.org/steering.html )

Coordinator and Website management:
   Andy Roberts     [en,fr,ia]
     andy.roberts@zetnet.co.uk

PGP Key holder and cmsg issuing:
   Mario Benvenuti  [it,en]
     mario@computerville.it

Editors:
   Martijn Dekker   [nl,ia,en,sv,no,da,de,fr,es,it,pt,af]
     martijn@inlv.demon.nl
   Philippe Vigeral [fr,en,es,ia,ca,it,pt]
     phv@pottok.org
   Marcin Dębowski  [pl,en,de,ru,nl]
     agatek@notrix.net
   Modesto Garrido  [es,en]
     modegar@idecnet.com
   Simon Paquet     [de,en]
     sipaq@gmx.de
   Peter Alfredsen  [dk,en,ge,sv,no,nl]
     peteralf@fabel.dk

3. What are the good practice rules on europa.* ?

Usual Usenet rules for posting of course applies to europa.* and some more are requested by its specific multilingual nature:

3.1. Language

As stated above (see 1.3.), you are advised to state clearly in your posts what languages you can understand, even if you are not fluent in writing them. On the other hand, when answering, please do your best to use a language you are aware the previous sender understands.

3.2. Cultural differences and xenophobia

Discussion about the cultural diversity of the different european nationalities is a natural topic for many europa.* groups but please be sensitive to the people who may be reading and avoid making any remarks which could be received as racist or xenophobic.

When confronted with overtly xenophobic or racist posts, you are advised *not* to answer but, if their sender can be identified, to lodge a complaint against him with his internet provider's abuse service (abuse@ISP.name) with a copy of complete headers of offending posts. And, of course, put this lovely guy in your kill-file.

3.3. Crossposts and followup-to:

Should an article be on topic in several newsgroups, a crosspost on these groups can be done, provided that a followup-to is put on one newsgroup only, with an indication of it in the body of the message. This is true inside europa.* hierarchy and also for crossposts with newsgroups belonging to other, national or linguistic, hierarchies, so that they are not imposed articles written in another tongue than their own.

3.4. Top posting

Replies should be posted below the previous message, quoting enough to provide context, or interspersed amongst the relevant points. Top posters can be gently reminded of this, but please don't abuse them or perpetuate long arguments about it.

3.5. Problematic messages


Philippe Vigeral